Joining me now, the White House budget chief, Mick Mulvaney, the man in charge of implementing the government shutdown. WALLACE: You are calling this -- we heard it, saw it in the open, the Schumer shutdown. I mean, if you're going to deport 800,000 people, that's going to cost money. WALLACE: I want to pick up on this, though, because you just said, boy, we don't want the hostage-taking that's going on. WALLACE: Michael, back in 2013, when Republicans shutdown the government over ObamaCare, their congressional -- or their favorability ratings tanked.

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