They don't -- they don't mean it at all. MILIUS: So much so that I don't really know that Caitlyn Jenner brings all that much conservatism to California. What bugged me is that I don't think -- I don't think Caitlyn Jenner is the right person to talk down about this. I don't -- I'm not like the American voice for trans issues and even less so sports. GUTFELD: Yes, yes.

Source: Fox News May 11, 2021 20:03 UTC