According to the transcript, he suggested he heard gossip and innuendo in television green rooms from among others James Kallstrom, a former FBI official who retired from the bureau in 1997. Asked if he thought Kallstrom or anyone else had accurate information to share, Giuliani said “it could easily be that they did or they didn’t . or that the people that they spoke too [sic], excuse the language, were bulls---.”

Source: Washington Post August 11, 2021 20:37 UTC