"But in the last flu season you had 500 deaths and I just worry about that precedent, because what is New Zealand going to do for the next flu season? "I think New Zealand used basically public health and social measures very effectively as an elimination strategy. "You have to think of lockdowns as a last resort when nothing else works, and as a policy failure. Dr Adalja:"When you look at New Zealand's lockdowns, the tiers of lockdowns, I think that level 1 and level 2. "The level 3 and level 4 I think don't distinguish which activities spread the infection from which don't.

Source: New Zealand Herald September 16, 2021 19:46 UTC